Did some search strings and came up with a couple of tasters.....
Supportive review of Emin and her work :
http://www.isj.org.uk/index.php4?id=105&issue=106

Review on contemporary art, money and politics
(thisn's quite lengthy though):
http://pubs.socialistreviewindex.org.uk/isj79/molyneux.htm

I'm off to St Ives now folks to worship a few beautiful things!

Thanks for the info,it's strange how we all deal with our pasts differently.
Enjoy St Ives I'm off to Brighton.

I guess we all want to earn money to live, as you say Dennis, but there is a difference between a hard days honest graft for a decent wage (making money) to say conning the vunerable out of their life savings from some dodgy shed in Africa (making money too).

Just because you can doesn't mean you should.

By the by, did ya see his shirt? Ol' Florence Llewelyn? I bet he doesn't order soup

Last time I dared have a different opinion to dennis I was branded a "non entity" and poo pooed lol. Dimissing other peoples remarks in this kind of way is actually a form of bullying. Any more comments like that (personal detrimental remarks) will be reported to the admin, just because you can spell and use nice sentances does not mean it ain't trolling. Otherwise very enjoyable debate, I had my mind changed in the last one thanks to all the other posters so cheers to them. Everyone is entitled to have an opinion regardless of their standing in life, our country is at least for now still a roughly free one.

WOW thanks for the link Helen, I have never really looked into Emins work or though about it much until now. Very impressed and interested (about the article), again I have been made to look at things in a new way. So much so and on a personal level that I am not gonna share here, but lots to consider. Just goes to show you dont get to be an RA for nothing despite what many of us including me (use to) think.

Now THATS how to put your point forward in a debate with good reference where each person gets a chance to think for themselves.

Hi, and thanks for all the comments. Let's remember how all this started. Someone on this thread made some rather negative remarks about an artist who I personnally find interesting and provocative. Rather than let them go unchallenged I decided to exercise my right to argue against these views and defend this artist, (not that she needs me to defend her) against claims that I felt were totally wrong. Now art is a subject we can all get passionate about, and I was passionate about defending said artist on this forum. I felt it was time for a good contentious debate rather than the usual annodine mutual stroking that goes on. Now I think that we are all big boys and girls on this forum who can take a bit of knockabout fun occassionally, and the remarks I made were never aimed at any person by name and were meant to refer to the arguements put forward .Now you are quite entitled to call my views any thing you like and it is your right to try and get me to change my mind and fair enough, because sometimes I do feel that this forum could do with livening up a bit! On getting reported I am sure the moderators are keeping an eye on things and I am sure I will get ticked off if I overstep the line. I am glad that this debate has caused some people to change their mind and I will certainly wade in again if I see something here I strongly disagree with. Long live (yours and my) free expression!

P.S. The first article helennock gives a link to is superb and says it all much better than my illiterate scribblings can. Thanks Helen.

I really don't flip over Tracey Emins work, however I do feel she has achieved a status within the art world that a women doing such shocking work will only manage at this time. I believe she has opened doors that could very well stayed closed to many of us has Tracey not come along at the time she did. It is amazing how her name alone can spark so many different reactions and such emotions from fellow artists single-handedly, you do have to agree she does make great discussion material
Super the way this debate started with an hour programme on BBC2 Thursday and grown so far from it in many ways and somehow stayed with it to.
Clare

Still impressed with the research bit all I ever find is wikipedia and assorted crap

Anyhoo to conclude, I always firmly belived all modern stuff was just produced for the money alone. I have now come to accept that some of it is for the right reasons, due to this thread and others on the forum, writen not by bloody Jernos after a few quid but people with a genuine intrest. It is still an easy bandwagon to jump on but possibly most of these kind of "artists" fade away. It is more about the concept that being attractive image.

Also recently read Bansy's coffee table book and he seems genuine, friends of mine love his stuff and their not arty farty types, they just genuinly dig it (see I can look for meself and not just rely on this forum ). Love his stunt at the Louvre. He snuck in and put one of his pictures up where it lasted almost 2 hours I think before security realised, in the mean time the punters were enjoying it along with everything else.

This does not mean its my kind of thing still, and nobody has to like this stuff although there are those who would like to impose it on everyone else (just genralising here mostly thinking about media types and those intellectuals we occasionally get stuck with on tv and in real life).

Those are my personal thoughs and opinions so far whilst working my way through the great art scams, of many, I am sure, there still are.

Oh .... and I dont have a problem with people making money from their talents, it might sound like that sometimes, good luck too um, you spend most of you time at work it should be pleasurable.

Might be repeating myself a bit here (apols to the readers still awake at this point) but felt I needed to clear up the meaning behind my posts. Still getting use to writing on a forum, haven't done much debating since school and I never went there much When I get an idea I always want to rush it down before I forget it.

I have googled Tracy emins work and have yet to find anthing new or inspiring amongst it, The explanations of the articles written about her and what it all means also is nothing new, It seems she portrays all the angst of past events in her life.But I see no actual skill or Talent.

The authors of the articles,must never have endured anything turbulent in their own lives and find it facinating and original to explain the reasoning behind the images she turns out.

I have a feeling she would say the same about your portraights.

Spot on DS.

I have googled Wendy Puerto's work and have yet to find anthing new or inspiring amongst it, The explanations of her posts written by her and what it all means also is nothing new, It seems she portrays all the angst of past events in her life.But I see no actual skill or Talent.

How Ironic.

That is your opinion and yours only

If you have to produce art just to shock ,to gain awareness, it shows there must be something lacking,otherwise it would shine through anyway.
There are many more talented people on TAW.
Maybe her work should come under the heading of Current News or Current Affairs just not Art.

I am happy with what I produce and so are many others here is my latest comment from a happy art lover only yesterday.


Hi Wendy,
Just thought I would let you know that we are really pleased with the picture. It is on the wall and we cant stop looking at it. Its is very mesmerising and beautiful. Thanks for taking the time to paint it for us. We will certainly look to buy another painting in the future. Kind Regards, Gail.


I really did want to find something real by tracy Emin but there is just nothing out there.

I notice you no longer have a gallery on TAW.