can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

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Postcan I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by sarasara » Wed Aug 06, 2008 4:20 pm

Hi,

I would like to draw with a shellac-based ink on shellac grounds rather than an oil based one.

Anyone know if I can make a shellac ink suitable for drawing with pen or brush, for drawing in fine detail onto a shellac ground?

And how to manafacture it or if it is already available?

Grateful for advice.
thanks,
Sara.
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by joetymkow » Thu Aug 07, 2008 5:17 pm

Shellac is a varnish, usually thinned with turps, and drawing inks are usually water-based, so it would tend to split/seperate. You could try using printing inks which can be either oil or water based - good luck.
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by sarasara » Sat Aug 09, 2008 11:00 am

Thanks joey. I have seen a reference to shellac ink. I don't want to use water or oil in the process. So still looking for some way of mixing pigment with shellac,
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by jeanniezelos » Sun Aug 10, 2008 8:42 am

http://www.greatart.co.uk/JAXINKSHELLACINK-inks.htm

some here.
and there's also a thread on TAW about making it with some useful tips..
general-artist-chat-f5/shellac-t2106056.html
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by redyakki » Sun Aug 10, 2008 5:09 pm

having done it in the past.. you can try polyurethane-based paints. though i did it on glass and ceramics. it just dries very fast and you must do it in an enclosed area. i had to use a hair dryer/blower to keep the heat on and avoid excessive bubbles.
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by sarasara » Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:16 am

Thank you jeanneiezelos for your kind links which I will now research.

I have also been recommended an excellent link on another forum:

http://www.rohrer-klingner.de/en/sites/2.htm

I am told that they do an outstanding ink.

thanks everyone for your posts,

Sara :D

ps; just heard that the Great Art 'Jax' Ink is the UK import of the link above.
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PostRe: can I make/obtain a drawing ink in shellac?

by sarasara » Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:48 pm

joetymkow wrote:Shellac is a varnish, usually thinned with turps, and drawing inks are usually water-based, so it would tend to split/seperate. You could try using printing inks which can be either oil or water based - good luck.
That's a very good point and I am checking with the manafacturer to see if their mix would work.

oil based enamel is also a problem as it is not compatable with shellac over the longer term. It also tends to be fatty and hard to spread evenly and that is why I have been seeking a shellac based solution.

If the ink holds on the surface long enough for the water to dry then I should not have a problem but of course if it breaks into blotches it would be no use.

I will look at printing ink if the shellac is out of the question.

It may be I need a solution that bypasses water but still uses shellac.
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